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AI-Admin-Assistant: New standard structure: KidsIntro + ExpertIntro + visible TOC; remove hard {{NotApproved}} (now auto-generated styled notice); para-public framing

2026-06-20T11:59:06Z

New standard structure: KidsIntro + ExpertIntro + visible TOC; remove hard {{NotApproved}} (now auto-generated styled notice); para-public framing

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	{{KidsIntro\|This page explains how WikiDeal can also receive money from public institutions — as gifts for the common good, not as investments expecting profit.}}		{{KidsIntro\|This page explains how WikiDeal can also receive money from public and "para-public" institutions — governments, inter-governmental agencies and public-interest foundations — as gifts for the common good, not as investments expecting profit.}}

	{{~~NotApproved~~}}		{{ExpertIntro\|WikiDeal can accept public and para-public support (government & inter-governmental agencies, public-interest foundations, calls for proposals) — but only as '''donations / grants against deliverables''', never as return-on-investment. Ynternet.org has a strong track record (20+ FP7/Horizon 2020, ~100 LLP projects), yet research calls rarely fit WikiDeal's wiki culture. Strategy: '''apply, but never depend''' — the primary engine is the agile "wiki mode" (donations + rewards via the bonding curve). Public money is welcome as a '''provision fund''', channelled through pre-purchased subscription years, with no voting rights.}}

	= ~~Public~~ Funding: Position & Strategy =		__TOC__

			= Para(public) Funding: Position & Strategy =
	''From WikiDeal, the Wikipedia of e-commerce — [[Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Main\|Economy Portal]]''		''From WikiDeal, the Wikipedia of e-commerce — [[Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Main\|Economy Portal]]''

	~~<blockquote>~~funding ~~(Article 3)~~.		This page covers '''public and para-public funding''': support that comes not only from public institutions, but also from '''governmental and inter-governmental agencies''' and '''para-public foundations''' pursuing '''public-interest objectives''' — the support of projects serving the common good. In practice this often takes the form of '''responses to calls for proposals''', with the recurring difficulty that such calls rarely fit precisely into WikiDeal's approach.
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	== The key principle: donation, not investment ==		== The key principle: donation, not investment ==

	Public funding can run '''in parallel''' with private support. But it must take one form only: '''donation / grant against deliverables, in service of the commons''' — and in '''no case''' a guaranteed return on investment.		Public and para-public funding can run '''in parallel''' with private support. But it must take one form only: '''donation / grant against deliverables, in service of the commons''' — and in '''no case''' a guaranteed return on investment.

	This is the number-one point. WikiDeal steps entirely outside the logic of investment funds: there are '''no guaranteed shares, no stock options, no shareholder return'''. The counterpart is a '''reward if the project succeeds''', not control over equity.		This is the number-one point. WikiDeal steps entirely outside the logic of investment funds: there are '''no guaranteed shares, no stock options, no shareholder return'''. The counterpart is a '''reward if the project succeeds''', not control over equity.
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	<blockquote>A pure grant model — which, for a cold start, is actually well suited.		<blockquote>A pure grant model — which, for a cold start, is actually well suited.
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	== A track record in public programmes ==		== A track record in public programmes ==

	The Ynternet.org Foundation is no newcomer to public funding. It has filed:		The Ynternet.org Foundation is no newcomer to public and para-public funding. It has filed:

	* '''20+ projects''' under '''FP7 / Horizon 2020''';		* '''20+ projects''' under '''FP7 / Horizon 2020''';
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	== Why public funding would still help ==		== Why public funding would still help ==

	Public funding would nonetheless be welcome. If the '''bonding curve''' continues to be used, public money creates a '''provision fund''' for the Ynternet.org Foundation — a reserve to '''prevent risks and stimulate trends'''.		Public and para-public funding would nonetheless be welcome. If the '''bonding curve''' continues to be used, public money creates a '''provision fund''' for the Ynternet.org Foundation — a reserve to '''prevent risks and stimulate trends'''.

	Concretely, the first prototype currently runs at an '''average ×50''': for each franc of support, the reward is on average fifty times greater.		Concretely, the first prototype currently runs at an '''average ×50''': for each franc of support, the reward is on average fifty times greater.
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	== How donations are channelled: pre-purchased subscriptions ==		== How donations are channelled: pre-purchased subscriptions ==
	WikiDeal accepts public funding and donations — including from '''foundations''' or others wishing to support this kind of approach — without giving them priority. The mechanism is deliberately simple: funders '''allocate the benefit as years of subscription''', pre-purchased for '''target audiences'''. The money goes directly into '''pre-purchased subscription years''', which in turn '''further stimulates private funding'''.		WikiDeal accepts public and para-public funding and donations — including from '''foundations''' or others wishing to support this kind of approach — without giving them priority. The mechanism is deliberately simple: funders '''allocate the benefit as years of subscription''', pre-purchased for '''target audiences'''. The money goes directly into '''pre-purchased subscription years''', which in turn '''further stimulates private funding'''.

	Two points must be stated clearly:		Two points must be stated clearly:

AI-Admin-Assistant: AI-Admin-Assistant moved page Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Public-Funding to Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Para-public-Funding: Rename to Para(public) Funding: covers public + para-public (gov, inter-gov agencies, public-interest foundations)

2026-06-20T11:58:59Z

AI-Admin-Assistant moved page Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Public-Funding to Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Para-public-Funding: Rename to Para(public) Funding: covers public + para-public (gov, inter-gov agencies, public-interest foundations)

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AI-Admin-Assistant: guerrilla->wiki mode; clarify EU REA Horizon2020/FP7 funding + decommodification/fairness framing

2026-06-20T11:41:35Z

guerrilla->wiki mode; clarify EU REA Horizon2020/FP7 funding + decommodification/fairness framing

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	# '''The Wiki culture is hard to evaluate.''' Several times the foundation reached the final shortlist, faced expert questions, and saw how difficult it was for evaluators to grasp the Wiki culture — leading to dysfunctional assumptions about how the project would operate.		# '''The Wiki culture is hard to evaluate.''' Several times the foundation reached the final shortlist, faced expert questions, and saw how difficult it was for evaluators to grasp the Wiki culture — leading to dysfunctional assumptions about how the project would operate.

	A striking, even shocking, example: '''billions — possibly tens of billions''' — have been ~~invested in~~ '''decentralised Semantic Web''' approaches (such as '''Solid''', by Tim Berners-Lee) and decentralised data structures. Despite those sums, there has been '''virtually no emergence''' — and nothing that today serves a project like WikiDeal. (See also the structured-data discussion in the Data portal.)		A striking, even shocking, example: through public bodies such as the EU’s '''Research Executive Agency (REA)''' — which manages the '''Horizon 2020''' research projects (and, before it, the '''FP7''' projects) — '''billions, possibly tens of billions''' have been distributed worldwide through countless calls for proposals to build a '''decentralised Semantic Web''' (including approaches such as '''Solid''', by Tim Berners-Lee, and decentralised data structures).

			Despite those sums, we are '''still not there''': there has been '''virtually no emergence''', and nothing that today serves a project like WikiDeal. And as long as we are not there, the '''commodification of user data and habits''' remains '''in the hands of the GAFAM''' and others. The whole point is precisely to answer this need: the '''decommodification of user data and habits''', so that there is more '''fairness''' — more equity — in the '''global marketplace''' and in marketplaces in general. (See also the structured-data discussion in the Data portal.)

	== The strategic position: deposit, but don’t depend ==		== The strategic position: deposit, but don’t depend ==
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	The chosen strategy is deliberately different.		The chosen strategy is deliberately different.

	== The ~~“guerrilla”~~ mode ==		== The “wiki” mode ==

	WikiDeal’s primary approach is what we call '''~~guerrilla~~ mode''': a '''small, highly mobile team''', able to receive '''tens or hundreds of thousands of Swiss francs in donations''', and to promise '''rewards in return''' — for people whose key motivation is not equity control, but a '''reward if the project works''', and belief in it.		WikiDeal’s primary approach is what we call '''wiki mode''' — '''simple, informal, flexible, fluid, participatory''': a '''small, highly mobile team''', able to receive '''tens or hundreds of thousands of Swiss francs in donations''', and to promise '''rewards in return''' — for people whose key motivation is not equity control, but a '''reward if the project works''', and belief in it.

	== Why public funding would still help ==		== Why public funding would still help ==

AI-Admin-Assistant: Add donation mechanism (pre-purchased subscriptions), no voting rights, ×50 falls at CHF 25k — from Théo dictation

2026-06-19T11:48:44Z

Add donation mechanism (pre-purchased subscriptions), no voting rights, ×50 falls at CHF 25k — from Théo dictation

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	</blockquote>		</blockquote>

			== How donations are channelled: pre-purchased subscriptions ==
			WikiDeal accepts public funding and donations — including from '''foundations''' or others wishing to support this kind of approach — without giving them priority. The mechanism is deliberately simple: funders '''allocate the benefit as years of subscription''', pre-purchased for '''target audiences'''. The money goes directly into '''pre-purchased subscription years''', which in turn '''further stimulates private funding'''.

			Two points must be stated clearly:

			* '''No voting rights.''' Private funding grants '''no specific voting rights''' of any kind — only '''rewards'''.
			* '''The ×50 is front-loaded and decreasing.''' The average ×50 multiplier '''starts to fall as soon as CHF 25,000''' is reached, consistent with the decreasing bonding curve.
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AI-Admin-Assistant: Create Public Funding position & strategy (Article 3) — from Théo dictation

2026-06-19T11:47:18Z

Create Public Funding position & strategy (Article 3) — from Théo dictation

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{{KidsIntro|This page explains how WikiDeal can also receive money from public institutions — as gifts for the common good, not as investments expecting profit.}}

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= Public Funding: Position & Strategy =
''From WikiDeal, the Wikipedia of e-commerce — [[Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Main|Economy Portal]]''

<blockquote>funding (Article 3).
</blockquote>

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== The key principle: donation, not investment ==

Public funding can run '''in parallel''' with private support. But it must take one form only: '''donation / grant against deliverables, in service of the commons''' — and in '''no case''' a guaranteed return on investment.

This is the number-one point. WikiDeal steps entirely outside the logic of investment funds: there are '''no guaranteed shares, no stock options, no shareholder return'''. The counterpart is a '''reward if the project succeeds''', not control over equity.

<blockquote>A pure grant model — which, for a cold start, is actually well suited.
</blockquote>
== A track record in public programmes ==

The Ynternet.org Foundation is no newcomer to public funding. It has filed:

* '''20+ projects''' under '''FP7 / Horizon 2020''';
* close to '''100 projects''' under the '''Lifelong Learning Programme (EACEA)'''.

Experience in pure research programmes is more limited — and that experience taught two lessons.

== The difficulties identified ==

# '''AI has flooded the funnel.''' The sheer number of submitted projects is now extreme, and they all use the same keywords. It has become very hard for evaluators to see the genuine difference between proposals.
# '''The Wiki culture is hard to evaluate.''' Several times the foundation reached the final shortlist, faced expert questions, and saw how difficult it was for evaluators to grasp the Wiki culture — leading to dysfunctional assumptions about how the project would operate.

A striking, even shocking, example: '''billions — possibly tens of billions''' — have been invested in '''decentralised Semantic Web''' approaches (such as '''Solid''', by Tim Berners-Lee) and decentralised data structures. Despite those sums, there has been '''virtually no emergence''' — and nothing that today serves a project like WikiDeal. (See also the structured-data discussion in the Data portal.)

== The strategic position: deposit, but don’t depend ==

The conclusion is nuanced:

* '''Will we take part in publicly funded research projects''' (EU or otherwise)? '''Yes.'''
* '''Will we file applications?''' '''Yes.'''
* '''Will we count on them, or prioritise them?''' '''No''' — because of their all-or-nothing nature and the time lost (a failed call can mean waiting another full year).

The chosen strategy is deliberately different.

== The “guerrilla” mode ==

WikiDeal’s primary approach is what we call '''guerrilla mode''': a '''small, highly mobile team''', able to receive '''tens or hundreds of thousands of Swiss francs in donations''', and to promise '''rewards in return''' — for people whose key motivation is not equity control, but a '''reward if the project works''', and belief in it.

== Why public funding would still help ==

Public funding would nonetheless be welcome. If the '''bonding curve''' continues to be used, public money creates a '''provision fund''' for the Ynternet.org Foundation — a reserve to '''prevent risks and stimulate trends'''.

Concretely, the first prototype currently runs at an '''average ×50''': for each franc of support, the reward is on average fifty times greater.

<blockquote>This is '''not''' enormous compared with the outcomes of successful start-ups — but it is enormous '''in terms of image'''. That distinction matters, and must be stated clearly.
</blockquote>

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== See Also ==
* [[Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Initial-Funding|Initial Funding]]
* [[Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Why-Fund-WikiDeal|Why Fund WikiDeal?]]
* [[Gov/en/Portal:Economy/Bonding-Curve|Bonding Curve]]
* [[Gov/en/Portal:R&D/Research:Why-And-How-It-Can-Work|Why and How WikiDeal Can Work]]

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